Anthony Lamacchia is the Founder and CEO of Lamacchia Realty, a multi-state real estate company.
Anthony Lamacchia discusses the recent settlement agreement involving the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its implications for the real estate industry. Here’s a summary of the key points Anthony covers:
Anthony Lamacchia’s video is a call to action for realtors to understand the settlement’s implications, critique the misinformation surrounding it, and adapt to continue serving their clients effectively in a changing industry landscape.
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Anthony Lamacchia: : In a shocking surprise to many in the industry, the National Association of Realtors agreed to settle the ridiculous, wrongful lawsuit out of Western Missouri for $418 million just last Friday, and it surprised many. I plan to go over that with you, the settlement terms, the key rule changes that we are seeing from that that are listed in here that I will put in plain English for all of you, along with reviewing the headlines, which have been absolutely out of control, and they’ve been so wrong. I’m going to review all of these with you so that you can understand where I am coming from. I’m also going to state right here at the beginning that this is not good for homebuyers, despite what these terrible headlines are saying. This is not a win for homebuyers, and I’m going to break down why, and break down some of the ways that I think realtors can continue to conduct business, and I’ll actually go into that in more detail in future videos, but I’m going to graze over the top of that today.
First, I want to start with my statement that I had typed up from my
phone on a flight down to Florida with my dad next to me, typed it up for the
media because so many requests were coming through from media and other parties
at 10:00 AM. I knew I had to put out a typed statement because I obviously
couldn’t get on camera. I’m even going to show you some clips from the news
segment that I did do on Monday morning where I was able to correct a lot of
the record.
Everyone keeps talking as if this settlement has something to do with
what realtors charge, and that’s the biggest misconception that I’m seeing. I
saw another news outlet this morning that said 5% and 6% non-negotiable fees
are gone. I wish fees were non-negotiable. Us realtors wish it was that easy.
It is not.
I feel grateful to the Fox affiliate here in Boston for allowing me to
come on and correct the record. Other media outlets nationally don’t seem to
have any interest in getting the record straight. They seem to be following the
line of the plaintiff’s attorney and just going along with everything they say.
Let me start with the statement. We’re going to put it up on the screen.
“Truthfully, I would have preferred to see NAR take this to appeal
because I and many experts feel strongly that they would have prevailed. I can
understand them settling given the fact that many across our industry just
don’t have the stomach to fight on and tolerate the constant media barrage that
the plaintiff’s counsel has launched on our industry that is full of lies and
misinformation.”
Folks, I put this statement together at about 10.30 in the morning on
Friday from the plane, and boy, did I end up being right if you look at all the
media that came out after that. I was right to say it then, and I was even more
right after. Getting back to the statement.
“In the end, these changes that the plaintiff’s attorneys will
take a victory lap on won’t bring down commissions and make things less
transparent. This puts the settlement pot over $600 million, which means the
plaintiff’s lawyers will get paid over $200 million in what is now the biggest
legal shakedown of an industry in history. The good news is, I have no concerns
about the real estate brokerage business living on and continuing to be alive
and well. Buyers and sellers have wanted the assistance of realtors for over
100 years, and that won’t change a bit.”
This won’t change that a bit. Folks, I mean everything I said in there.
I stand by it. I stand by saying that the verdict in the Sitzer-Burnett case–
Burnett, I should say. Sitzer bailed out because he knew it was a fake case. My
attitude on that has not changed. I’ve been strong in saying that, and I
haven’t backed down from it, and I’m not going to now. The only folks that are
making out in this is the lawyers, and that’s it, and it’s very unfortunate
that the media doesn’t report on that. I put out a video last Thursday, the day
before the settlement, talking about how the plaintiff’s attorneys, led by
Michael Ketchmark, put in an application to get paid $69 million. If you want
to see that video, log on to recases.com, and you can see the breakdown. We
were going to email it out Friday morning, and then the settlement came out,
and we said, well, it’s old news because now we know, within a matter of weeks
or maybe a couple of months, they’re going to apply for over $200 million.
You know what I find interesting? In that video, I showed how they
talked about all the hours they had spent on the case. What are they going to
do now? Use the same hours when they apply for more money? Of course I’ll be
breaking that down in future videos, but I just wanted to mention it because
it’s an example of the scam that is going on here, in this case, in the
shakedown of the real estate industry that’s going on, and I want to point it
out.
Now, let’s jump into starting to review some of the headlines, starting
with the New York Times. Folks, they may as well be Michael Ketchmark’s
media company. I had mentioned in the debate they should name the court
Ketchmark’s Court. You look at the New York Times, I actually wonder if
he writes the titles. I even this morning listened to a podcast of some sort,
and they were going on and on and on about how bad the realtor association is,
how rigged the system is, et cetera. Insane to me.
Let’s read the headline. At 9.35 AM. Notice I’m pointing that out, both
sides had agreed not to release anything to the media until 10 AM. Not only the
plaintiff’s side released it early, but their media company, the New York
Times, they put it out early. Let’s read it. Powerful Realtor Group
Agrees to Slash Commissions to Settle Lawsuits. What? Since when does the
national association or any state associations or any local associations have
anything to do with what us realtors charge? They don’t tell us what to charge.
They don’t allude to us or hint to us on what to charge, and it’s not mentioned
anywhere on their website that I’ve ever seen. It sure is mentioned on the
American Bar Association website what trial attorneys charge. It says right on
it, 33% to 40%, and I mentioned that in last week’s video, and I showed it.
Let me read the rest of it. “The National Association of Realtors
will pay $418 million in damages, and will amend several rules that housing
experts say will drive down housing costs.”
All of you that call yourselves experts, you are not an expert. If you
think that this is going to drive down the price of homes or costs, this is
going to drive up the cost of buying a home for many, many buyers, especially
sellers who get fooled by these ridiculous, wrongful, misinformation headlines,
headlines full of misinformation, they’re going to be harmed. They’re going to
spend more money because of it, and they can thank the plaintiff’s attorneys
for that.
Let me read a couple of excerpts from the article. I find it
interesting they had so many comments in this article. How did they gather all
these comments so quickly? They were obviously tipped off days in advance.
Here’s a comment. “NAR is finally out of the business of forcing home
sellers to pay inflated commissions, said Michael Ketchmark, the Kansas City
lawyer behind the home sellers’ legal triumph.” Never knew that NAR forced
sellers on what to pay. I’ve never seen that, never heard of it.
Here goes Ketchmark again. “The reset button on the sale of homes
was hit today. Anyone who owns a home or dreams of owning one will benefit
tremendously from this settlement.” Another example of Ketchmark not
knowing what he’s talking about. He said it in the debate. Then I said,
“Michael, you don’t know our business,” and he said, “Yes, I do.
Yes, I do. I know your business well. I’ve been studying your business for four
years.” That’s a bunch of crap.
I said to him one time on the phone, I said, “Mike, if I worked as
a trial attorney for the next four years, would I know your business as good of
you as you do? Of course I would not. That’s insane to me.” That’s one
article that I found. Let’s move on.
Next one. “Home prices may fall as real estate group agrees to
lower commissions.” What was this? Business Insider.
There’s another one, Yahoo Finance. “Real estate agents
just lost their 6% commissions, and half may lose their jobs if analyst
prediction holds true.” What? We lost? Where did it go? Where did the 6%
go? I lost it. Oh, my God. Folks, I wish we were able to easily charge 6%. I said
that in the news the other day, and I’m being a little bit of a wise guy when I
say that. What are you talking about? NAR doesn’t set our commissions, NAR
doesn’t tell us what to do and what to charge.
“Buying a home. Realtor commissions could shrink after legal
settlement.” USA Today.
“No more 6% commissions,” in Morningstar. “Home
buyers and sellers will soon negotiate their own commissions.” As if they
haven’t been negotiating all along. This is pathetic.
CBS News.
“National Association of Realtors to cut commissions to settle lawsuits.
Here’s the financial impact.” What?
“Money–” I can’t even read some of these headlines.
Here you go. NPR. “A major settlement could spell an end to
6% real estate commissions.”
Folks, this is a bunch of garbage. The articles are garbage. They’re
not right. A lot of the reporters that are reporting on it don’t understand how
the business works. They’re avoiding getting comments from people that do. Many
of you know that I’m talking to you myself. I’ve reached out to many of you. I
sent my statement to many of you.
You don’t report on it, but you put catch marks reports in there all
day long, and any other plaintiff’s attorneys or anyone else that wants to cry
that our business is too expensive. That’s not real media. That’s not balanced
media. Shame on all those media companies and many more that have jumped on the
bandwagon after New York Times put their article out on Friday morning,
obviously before the embargo was agreed to.
Next, let’s talk about the settlement terms. Because, realtor friends,
these are the proposed terms. You know it’s going to the judge in Western
Missouri. Those that watched the debate, I made it clear. This judge obviously
thinks our industry is wrong. He’s ruled against, he ruled against NAR and the
other defendants time after time after time leading up to the trial. I’m
willing to bet he’s going to approve pretty much everything that is said in
here or damn close to it. Let’s talk about some of the settlement terms.
$418 million. Here you go right here. This 120-something pages of the
settlement agreement that I don’t really like, to tell you all how I really
feel. $418 million over a four-year period. I’m reading it.
“Within 90 days following the final approval of the settlement by
the court, the National Association of Realtors will deposit $197 million into
the escrow account. No later than one year after the initial payment of the
initial $197 million, NAR will deposit $72 million. No later than two years
after the initial payment, another $72 million. Then no later than three years
after the initial $197 million payment, NAR will deposit the balance.”
They say balance because, guess what? Interest has been agreed to.
They’re going to charge interest as well. When these plaintiff’s attorneys go
on the news and they say they’re for the people, and they’re going after the
corporate titans, and they’re going after the trade organization, where does
all this money come from? This comes from realtors that are working hard on the
street, serving buyers and sellers. No matter what they’ve said, everything
they’ve said in the media leading up to the case, since the case, since last
Friday, people still want to work with realtors. It hasn’t ended. Where’s this
money coming from? The pocket of realtors. Realtors pay their dues, it goes to
NAR. NAR is using the money on this.
Same with the defendants. I’ve never defended my competitors so much.
They’re taking their hard-earned dollars that we all compete for. They’re
having to give it to this shakedown. It’s absurd.
That’s part of the settlement terms. Something else I found
interesting. It’s a seven-year agreement. The settlement says that it’s
forever, it’s indefinite for these seller plaintiff lawsuits. The agreement on
some of these terms that I’m going to go over soon, key rule changes, are seven
years. What happens in seven years is what I want to know. It does not include
the buyer cases like the Batten case. We’ve got a settlement that we’re all,
everybody in this industry, is looking at, and everyone’s still got to worry
about the buy-side cases? Folks that are decision-makers at the defendants at
NAR, hear me loud and clear. This plaintiff’s lawyer, the leader, Michael
Ketchmark, and all the other plaintiffs’ lawyers, they’re not going to just
take their $418 million, plus the $206 million they got from the other
defendants, and take their bat and ball and go home. They’re going to terrorize
our industry until we give them the same thing that they’re giving to us. Until
they’re treated with the same respect, which is none, that they’re treating us
with in our industry. I hope that makes sense. We better think twice about
going through with this.
Oh, one more thing. This doesn’t cover brokerages that did over $2
billion in sales volume in 2022. Apparently it covers the realtors in those
companies, but it doesn’t cover the brokerages, which is 80 or 90 brokerages. I
don’t think that’s right. I don’t think that should have been agreed to. It
doesn’t. There’s other parts of the rule changes that I’m going to mention that
I don’t think should have been agreed to.
One of the problems that I see is the plaintiff’s side does a very good
job, for the most part, of colluding together, frankly, as they should in
working together to attack the real estate industry. I don’t see it on the
defense side. I just don’t. I don’t hear of it. They should. It doesn’t seem to
be happening. Let’s move on to key rule changes so I can go through those,
because I know most of you realtors that are listening, that’s what you want to
hear about, how’s this going to affect my business, how’s it going to affect
the day-to-day.
Page 27, Practice Changes. Section 58. I’m going to skip
through. “Eliminate and prohibit any requirement by the National
Association of Realtors, MLS’s board members, the listing agents, or sellers
must make offers of compensation to buyers, brokers, or other buyer representatives,
either directly or indirectly, and eliminate and prohibit any requirements that
such offers, if made, must be blanket, unconditional, and unilateral.” A
lot of legal speak there. Let’s put it in plain English.
Folks, the requirement in a lot of the MLSs that says some amount of
money has to be offered to the cooperating brokerage is going to be eliminated.
Any mention, that’s what I’m going to get to next, of commissions is going to
be evaporated from the MLSs as I predicted over a month ago. Here’s the thing
that’s being misunderstood, and I think some of the garbage media that’s over
there on the floor where it belongs, they get it confused. They’re getting it
confused on purpose because they’re not actually trying to get the right
information. A lot of these MLSs say, like MLS PIN, for example, $1, a minimum
of $1 has to be paid to the other side. Miami used to say a penny, big deal.
Doesn’t say half, doesn’t say a quarter, three quarters, 60, 40. It says a tiny
amount of money. That was done with the right intention. The fact that they’re
saying eliminate that requirement, who cares, I don’t care. Folks, we all know
that there’s been sellers that have pushed back on this before. It’s been in
listing agreements, in most listing agreements, in a separate section for
years, so what?
Next, “Eliminate and prohibit any requirements, conditioning,
participation, or membership in a realtor MLS.” People don’t have to be
realtors. They don’t have to be. In some parts of the country, to get access to
the MLS, you have to be a realtor. I understand that. We’re members in some of
those areas, and we’re also, where we have our biggest membership here in
Massachusetts, our Realtor Association and our MLS is two totally separate
things. Whatever, they put that in there, makes people feel good. If that’s
great, that makes people feel good, that’s great.
“Agree not to create, facilitate, or support any non-MLS
mechanism.” This part is confusing. Basically what they’re saying here is,
the National Association shouldn’t be putting any other mechanism in place
where compensation can be offered. Whatever, who cares? Folks, bottom line,
you’re going to have to negotiate your commissions within your transaction. If
you’re in a state like Massachusetts where you’re writing offers, it’s going to
have to be baked into your offer. Maybe you have another compensation form and
or another compensation form, maybe you don’t, but it’s going to have to be
negotiated in like it has been in the commercial world. The idea of going into
MLS and seeing what’s being offered in an open and transparent manner is going
to be gone by the end of the summer. Gone, they say July. We’ll see if July
happens. I won’t be surprised if it gets delayed a month or two, but that’ll be
gone. The open, transparent system that we all can see, even the cooperating
brokerage compensations that are being mentioned on Zillow, those are going to
be gone.
The lawyers are running around doing their victory lap, as I said in my
statement, they would take a victory lap saying, yay, we helped people, okay,
great. Say that to the first time buyer that sees a house that they like and
there’s a seller that believes these crap articles and the seller says, “I
won’t offer any compensation, I’m not willing to share any.” Let’s see how
that works out for that buyer. Those buyers should remember these lawyers and
send them an email or a letter to let them know, but they won’t care. They’ll
be too busy counting and swimming in their money like the uncle on DuckTales.
Who remembers DuckTales when many of us were kids and the uncle would
swim through money? That’s what they’re going to do, all these plaintiff’s
attorneys. They’ll be busy doing that by the end of the summer.
“Listing and buyer contracts must include language.” This one
drives me nuts, that commissions are not set by law and are fully negotiable.
I’ve said this before, I didn’t think that MLS PIN should have agreed to it in
their proposed settlement last summer. I’ll say it again now, they shouldn’t
have, NAR shouldn’t. Why the hell would a trade organization agree or any
organization agree that realtors are going to have to show, “Hey, this is
our fee, but it’s negotiable,” or, “Hey, here’s our disclosure that our
fee is negotiable. Oh, and here’s what I charge.” Do the plaintiff’s
lawyers do that?
When someone wants work done in their house, when you want to buy a
car, do they give you a disclosure that says it’s negotiable? No, they don’t do
that at all. I don’t like that. I hope the judge shoots it down. I doubt he
will, strongly doubt he will. I hope the DOJ, if they come out with a statement
in reference to the settlement, I hope they say it’s wrong, but they won’t.
This is wishful thinking that’s likely not going to happen.
“Prohibit realtors from representing to a client or customer that
their brokered services are free or at no cost.” I agree. Realtors
shouldn’t be saying that. Realtors never should have been saying that. As I’ve
stated before, there’s 1.5 million realtors in the country, and then another
million or so real estate licensees that aren’t part of the realtor
organization. You’re bound to have some people that say things the wrong way.
“The settlement does not prevent offers of compensation to buyer
brokers off MLS.” They’re making it clear, and I mentioned that from the
DOJ statement a few weeks ago, they’re making it clear that it’s okay if a
seller wants to offer that. They’re smart to do that, because they know that
the DOJ’s wish of, oh, the seller can’t offer it, is never going to happen.
Lawmakers, no Democrat, no Republican, no one’s going to agree to take away a
seller’s right to offer compensation to someone. They just don’t want it done
on the MLSs. Fine.
They’re also saying it does not prevent sellers from offering buyer
concessions on MLS for buyer closing costs, so long as such concessions are not
limited to or conditioned on the retention or the payment to cooperating
broker. Here’s the point there. There’s likely going to be a field now in MLS
that’s going to show what a seller is willing to offer to buyers in a closing
cost credit. Great. They’re saying they don’t have a problem with that. That’s
fine. Some of those rule changes I just went through, there’s obviously some
other details and more to come, but I wanted to graze over the entire thing.
Here’s my final message to realtors, because I know thousands of you
are watching. Folks, it’s time you get real. Many of you have been at companies
that have not had real training, not show you how to navigate these things, and
now there’s an opportunity for your business. You can accept the changes, learn
them, learn them inside out, rise up, and dominate in this business, or you can
just hope. If you’re at a company that hasn’t provided you with some amount of
training on how to tackle this, you need to move on. For all the realtors out
there, and honestly, it’s an honor to hear from so many of you. It is. I
sincerely appreciate it. I sincerely appreciate that you think a lot of me. For
all the realtors out there that have reached out to me, or reached out to our
people, and said, when is Anthony going to do a training, when is it. Folks, I
have news for you. If you’re not a part of my company, I am not training you on
how to deal with this.
The last thing that I need is the Department of Justice, or the
plaintiff’s attorneys, or anyone else saying Anthony Lamacchia is colluding
with other brokerages, brokers, realtors, and training them on how to obtain
commissions. Because during that training, naturally, some use of hypothetical
numbers is going to be necessary. I’m not putting myself in that hot water. The
training that we’ve been doing for four months and that we’re going to now
triple down on, quadruple down on for the next four to make sure that our
realtors are more than prepared is going to be for our realtors and our
realtors only. This is not going to be for others. Our Crush It in Real Estate
events and all these kinds of things, I’m not getting into details on how you
can get paid.
Of course I speak about it. I speak in the media. I do training tour
events. Will I talk about parts of the settlement? Of course. The idea that
you’re going to get training from me on how to deal with this is not happening.
That message is going out. I’m happy to say it here openly, transparently to
other broker owners, other realtors, et cetera. This is a time that I need to
put the majority of my focus into our realtors and making sure that they are
more than prepared for it, and that’s what I will be doing. I’ll be out with
another video in a week or two, breaking down additional details of the latest
of what’s going on here.