Laurie Finkelstein Reader – The Gift is in the Giving

Laurie Finkelstein Reader, the founder and CEO of the Laurie Finkelstein Reader Team, is based in the sun-drenched region of South Florida. With a career spanning over 26 years, her primary goal has been to improve the real estate experience for both consumers and agents. Laurie is deeply committed to contributing positively to the lives of others. Laurie has evolved into a coach for real estate businesses, assisting entrepreneurs across the country in expanding their ventures. Click here to learn more about Laurie. 

Show Notes

Welcome to the Agents Who Crush It In Real Estate podcast where you’ll hear the good, the bad and the ugly of how real estate agents overcame challenges and grew their business. Check out the Episode Notes at Here’s your host, Lindsay Favazza.

Lindsay Favazza: Hello and welcome back to the Agents Who Crush It in Real Estate podcast, where we deep dive into the strategies, secrets, and stories of those who have not just survived, but thrived in the competitive world of real estate. I’m your host, Lindsay Favazza, and today I have a truly inspiring guest with me, someone who I’ve known and been very impressed with for quite a while. She has 26 years of experience, a titan in the real estate industry, a mentor to many, and a beacon of innovation and excellence. I’m talking about none other than Laurie Finkelstein Reader, the founder and CEO of Laurie Finkelstein Reader & Team in the sunkissed landscapes of South Florida. 

Laurie isn’t just a real estate mogul, she’s a business coach and a leader who has helped countless entrepreneurs nationwide scale new heights. Her team’s achievements speak volumes, serving over 7,700 families, generating a staggering $2.83 billion in sales, and clinching the title of the number one real estate team in South Florida. Today, she joins us to impart her wisdom, offer insights, and discuss the innovative strategies that have transformed the realm of real estate. 

Without further ado, let’s dive in and learn from the best in the business. Welcome to the podcast, Laurie. 

Laurie Finkelstein Reader: My gosh, Lindsay, I am a little emotional hearing all of that actually. 

Lindsay: My God, I love that. I love that these intros make people really excited because it’s not often you get to hear someone introduce you like that. I think you deserve it. 

Laurie: I know. I just feel– It just makes me feel so proud of all of the exceptional great humans in our company. When they say, when I was a kid growing up, you hear your grandparents, it takes a village, it takes a village. It really takes the right village. When you say all those wonderful things about me, you’re really talking about our entire company. Yes. 

Lindsay: It starts with you and you’ve trained them to be those awesome people that they are. They come in and they learn a lot from you. Tell me, share a moment when you realized that real estate was what it is, what you were going to do with your life. When was that moment? Take us back to that time. 

Laurie: Okay. I love that question because I think everyone needs to have that defining moment. If they don’t have it yet, maybe this gives them a little bit of a feeling how you can look for it. I found myself after living in the other, on the other side of the world in beautiful Sydney, Australia. I all of a sudden found myself as a single mom with two littles, moved back to the States. I grew up in real estate and called my parents. I’m like, “Hey, what am I going to do?” They’re like, “Well, you’re going to get your real estate license.” I was like, oh, never. 

Lindsay: Not the family business. 

Laurie: About three weeks later, I was like, “Mom, Dad, what am I going to do?” My mom’s like, “Oh, you’re already signed up for real estate school. You start Monday.” Yes, same mom still telling me what to do and loving every minute of it. 

I got my real estate license, and the defining moment really came for me. It was so obvious and so clear was, I had a young woman who I met through my daughter’s school and she needed a rental property. Right. I got to know her a little bit and she said, I can’t find a real estate agent to help me. I’m only spending about $800 on a rental. I have two girls. I’m a single mom. I was like, I got you. 

Now, mind you, Lindsay. I had no clue what I was doing. 

Lindsay: Yes, you just run out. 

Laurie: Okay. I just knew I could help her. The goal was help this person. I took her around a week, one week to find an $800, $900 rental property. This is literally 25, 26 years ago. I put her in that property, and I think I made $50. I might’ve made $50, $70. I didn’t make any money. 

Three weeks later, I got a phone call from a gentleman and he said, “Hey, I’m Steve, blank. You helped my new girlfriend and her two sweet daughters get into a rental. Hey, Laurie, I am going to be buying a $1.3 million condo. I would just love for you to come and sign the paperwork. You don’t have to do anything, but it’s just my gift for you helping my new girlfriend. I was like– 

Lindsay: Okay, so can I ask, has that ever happened again in all of your real estate? 

Laurie: No. When you help enough people, it really happens to us a lot. Right. It’s doing the next right thing. I didn’t even understand it. I went to North Miami Beach, the millennium signed this paper. All of a sudden, I’m making money over the next year, getting checks for a year and a half. Honestly, thank God, because I was brand new and flat-broke with two kids. 

I knew at that moment after helping the young woman, I knew that feeling that it gave me was something that was very natural for me and what I wanted to do. Then when I realized, wow, I just did the right thing, and then I won. It became clear to me that, you go out, you literally make relationships, you pour value into people. They trust you. You’re in business. 

As far as being a seasoned, scaled, skilled sales, a seasoned skilled salesperson. That’s a lot of S’s. [inaudible 00:05:58] time, right? 

I didn’t know what I was doing. I will openly admit to you. I had no clue what I was doing, but I was resourceful and I would go and ask the right people, “Hey, I don’t know how to do this. I don’t know how to do that.” I was a big question asker and I was probably very annoying to every excellent agent in the field. I knew my defining moment was genuinely the feeling it gave me to help someone. Then when you do the right thing, you will win. It was very clear to me. 

Lindsay: Tell me about your parents’ involvement in real estate. Where they, do they have a brokerage of their own? Do they have a team or they did another team? How did that work out? 

Laurie: When I was 10, my parents went into real estate and they had at any given time up to 15, 20 different offices with, one or two different franchises. Right when I got into real estate is when they sold their business and retired. They were at the back end and I was just starting out. 

I had a really good– I had the great good fortune of watching my parents not only help the consumer but help real estate agents because they were the brokers. I had a really good arena, if you will, to watch and be a part of, I always tease and say my first open house was when I was 10. I would beg my mom to take me to any open house she was doing. I would think I was showing the house, but I loved it. I loved people. I think that was the thing is that I love people. Yes, I grew up watching my mom and dad sell real estate. 

Lindsay: My grandmother owned a brokerage and my mom got in when she was young and started to like, she was doing bookkeeping and also she was an appraiser. I have a very similar background of like, I remember after school, my mom would pick me up and we would go and we would drive by houses and she would get out and try to take pictures, to do the appraisal. Then people would chase her down the driveway. She would jump in the car and we leave. 

I thought my mom was doing something illegal at that age. 

Laurie: She was just doing her job. 

Lindsay: Exactly. Exactly. I remember she had the measuring, the rolling measuring like thing in the back of the car, like that, those memories are like so alive. I love the fact that you were at the open house and you’re like, “Yes, I’m doing this. I’m selling this house today.” 

Laurie: I would be like, I just want to go to work with you. I’ll sit under the desk. I don’t care, do whatever. That’s so cool that you also grew up. 

Lindsay: Yes, that same background. I was the same way. I didn’t want to get in. Then later in life, I was like, what about this real estate thing? Then it came full circle. It was so cool. Tell me about, you were talking about. 

Laurie: Sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt you. I don’t know. I went to my parents about a year afterwards and just loving the industry. I sat them down and I was very serious. I was like, “I need to ask you guys a question.” I’m like, “Why didn’t you ever tell me to do this?” They’re like laughing. They’re like, “We’ve been telling you your whole life.” I’m like, well, I didn’t hear you. 

Lindsay: Exactly. You only hear the things you want to hear, Then you came back and they told you to do it and you still didn’t want to do it. 

Laurie: No, but I love it. 

Lindsay: That’s amazing. As far as a culture that you’ve built in your office, what is that culture like to you and how do you keep that culture alive? What do you do? Because now how many team members do you have? 

Laurie: We probably have at the moment, somewhere around 20 staff who I call the– just the golden, the gold of everything. Our staff is unreal. I know you have an amazing staff. I’m obsessed with you and your staff. We try to model a lot of things you guys do because you do it so well. Agents, we probably have somewhere around, let’s say 50 to 60 active agents and somewhere around 40 that are in training. 

In terms of culture, I would say as a company, we really do live our core values. it’s really important to me to always be in business with people that are somewhat like-minded, somewhat have a similar vision, right? We don’t have to all be the same. I love just the whole different eclectic group we have, but the idea of helping others, being philanthropic, being connected to the community– 

I don’t know if you’re familiar, but like we get a lot of hurricanes here in South Florida. Let me tell you when it happens, like we have to band together. We have a massive population here and we do a couple things every year with our toy drives, our back-to-school backpack, we’re really known for that. Just the people who are part of the culture understand like, look, we’re here for you to build a business and help you and ride alongside of you so you can have that life you want and build that legacy you’re striving for. Also, the idea that you’re connected to a company that genuinely believes and cares for others, right? 

I don’t feel, there’s this thing in real estate that real estate agents are highly competitive. I do believe that, I’ve heard Anthony say it and it’s true, it’s a very competitive business and I agree with him and I believe that, but I really feel that we’re collaborators, right? Look, when you guys moved to South Florida, I was so excited and most real estate agents were like, why are you so excited? I’m like, because Anthony Lamacchia’s got a great business and I love the way he operates. We need more people like that. 

I feel like we’re collaborators and that’s part of the culture within our company is talking about collaboration, helping one another. I guarantee you that you would agree with me, there is no better feeling than helping another human and watching them win. 

Lindsay: Absolutely. I love that goes back to your main purpose when you first started, you helped and you did the right thing and then you got it back. That’s what happens when you give back to the community and that comes back. It’s a giver’s gain if you were ever in BNI, that’s giver’s gain mentality. 

Laurie: Yes, and I am a very big believer and especially now the way real estate’s evolving is that if you are in real estate and you are a real estate agent, you’ve taken the time to get your real estate license and you’re showing up to your trainings and you’re doing, like, you’re going to have to do the work at a super high level. If you think you had to have one level of professionalism versus what it is today, you might as well just 10X it. 

If you think you needed to do X amount of calls and X amount of open houses and X amount of trainings, I say you 10X all of them. You not only thrive, but you crush it. You really, really, really win. That’s a big part of our culture, right? I talk about it all the time to the point where I’m sure I’m probably at this point, white noise. Maybe I don’t even know who hears me, but the reality is that I want people to win and if you’re not going to take the steps, you will be dismissed, period. 

That’s coming from the consumer. It’s nothing. We’ve got this lawsuit going on and we’ve got interest rates, we’ve got all these things. At the end of the day, Lindsay, the consumer is driving everything, right? I’m really big on training within our culture. I’m really big on being very transparent and telling you like, if you don’t show up, this is not going to work out for you. I want you to win, so it’s tough. 

Lindsay: Sometimes people need to hear that too because they’re questioning whether or not they’re in the right place for themselves. Then sometimes it does take someone else to be like, what, you haven’t done X, Y, and Z, maybe it isn’t the right thing for you, and that’s okay. 

Laurie: I’m listening to a lot of the most, the top coaches in our industry right now and I’m really paying very close attention. Every one of them, I’m really proud of our industry, especially at the top, like all these like leaders of big companies and leaders of big teams and coaches because they are all stepping up and they’re giving full transparency and honesty and they’re telling you, “Look, you’ve got to go do this, and this, and you will take so much opportunity and you will win.” If you don’t, you will be dismissed. I think great leadership is saying what needs to be said, not necessarily what people want to hear. Absolutely agree. 

Lindsay: That’s tough. Tell me about the training at your team. What do you guys focus on? How is training structured? What kind of training– How do you guys do it? 

Laurie: I would say the part of our community when it comes to training that I’m most proud of and I feel, I wish everybody would do it. A lot of times when I’m doing coaching or training or podcast or I’m speaking and I talk about this, people implement it and they tell me that it changes their business overnight and that it costs them zero, right? Always looking for things that are zero in cost. 

About 12 years ago, after I read a book called The One Thing and it talked about creating a 66-day habit. I thought to myself, how am I going to take my small real estate team of about 10 of us and move us in one direction where we would have this one habit that would change everything. We meet every single day without fail. The meeting kicks off at 8.25. We’ve got some great music playing at 8.30, boom. Clockwork, Monday to Friday, we’re in probably year 12. I’ll tell you, the nice thing is through COVID that really saved us because it’s all virtual. 

Of course, it became virtual when COVID kicked off. Before that, it was in person. Now we’ve decided to keep it virtual because we’re spread out through so many counties in so many areas. The training calendar is packed every single day with everything, anything real estate that will help you go and make money. Doesn’t matter what it is, scripting, how to do a great listing appointment, objection handlers. The calendar is packed every single day. 

My most favorite part about that is that, yes, we bring in outside guests. Yes, we bring in coaches. For the most part, we have our community members, our team members that are running the trainings. 

Lindsay: That’s amazing. 

Laurie: Right, and they’re talking about how they’re winning and how they’re losing. We also do things like Cheers for Peers. It’s a great place to bring your community together, whether you’re a team of three or a team of 300. We’re talking about, hey, right now, we just had our pies and our photos. Now we’ve got a couple events coming up. We’ve got our toy drive. Talking about things that people want to hear and just bringing you together. 

I’ll hear from agents that are either new to the company or been there for 20 years, they’ll say to me– This is how I start my day, right? Look, I’m in business. I want to build a big business. You got to go show up for that, right? They show up, they spend that 30 minutes, and then hopefully from 9 to 11, they’re lead generating, hopefully. I think a lot of them are, and those that are not are realizing that it’s something they have to do. 

Lindsay: Yes, and in this business too, a lot of agents, I think, lose the structure. Having that 8:30 start time to their day is probably really beneficial in and of itself. 

Laurie: I’m fairly confident that by the end of 24, the part-time agent, I don’t see where they’ll fit into the equation. Maybe those part-timers decide, “Hey, I’m going to go full-time now.” Maybe they decide, hey, they’re just going to send referrals, right? I think we’re going to see something a little different. For the people who are showing up and they have no plan B and no backdoor, they need this meeting every single day. It starts their day. 

We have also a really powerful training library, right? Any question you need answered, you can just go to the library. I think we call it the LFR Hub. We can answer that question for you. If not, obviously all of us help one another. Lots of in-person trainings, lots of masterminds. I don’t know how else you get better if you don’t have new knowledge. I haven’t figured that out yet. unless it’s going to come to me in my sleep. 

Lindsay: Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s like sleep or shower or vacation. Sometimes the best idea is coming when you’re on vacation. 

Laurie: Yes, and something else I want to mention, because I’m sure in your podcast, you’ve got people watching that are single agents to team leaders, to team owners, broker owners, I’m a huge proponent of my leadership and my staff receiving as much training as agents, right? You know you see my staff sitting in your trainings. They go to, I don’t go to a mastermind, to an event without staff, right? And my leadership group. Because how, where else will they get the information? it’s getting in the right rooms with the right people, keeping your mind, your heart open to become better. 

I take the leadership piece super seriously. If you’re going to lead, you better be going to learn first before you lead. 

Lindsay: Totally. Let’s switch it back to you. 

Laurie: That’s boring. 

Lindsay: No, it’s not. That’s why we’re here today. What is a day in your life like now, now that you have the team? Before, you were doing transaction to transaction, da, da, da, and now with the team, are you still transactionally based too? Do you feel like most of your day is really spent helping the team and helping the agents? Is it a balance? What is a typical day in your life now? 

Laurie: I always love that question. I always like to share because a lot of people are not aware, but I’ve been out of production now. I think I sold my last house and listed my last house about six and a half years ago. I was able to pass that baton because of the exceptional real estate agents that are in our company who are still here today, running my book of business, able to do, honestly, I don’t tell them too much, but they do way better than I did. 

Lindsay: Shh, we won’t tell. 


Laurie: My real focus is on growth and development. It’s on making sure I show up to all my L-10 meetings. We run EOS we’re very diligent with EOS, it’s very big for us. I show up to every level 10 meeting. I’m on Zoom probably somewhere between two and six hours a day. I’m in and out of the office. I’m doing in-person trainings for agents. I am still full-time, full-time on growth and development. Usually from about eight in the morning until about five in the afternoon, five days a week. 

I’m in an airplane a lot. Let’s just say I am traveling a lot and usually it’s for business, going to conferences, going to masterminds, getting in meetings with different companies that I’m in business with. I’ve got many third-party relationships and I’m very, very focused on growing those. 

Lindsay: Amazing. What is the most unusual or maybe memorable sale that you’ve had in your career? 

Laurie: Wow. 

Lindsay: Why? 

Laurie: Besides the one where I got 6%. Did I tell you that that commission was 6% on $1.3 million? [laughs] 

Lindsay: Your first? That is the most unicorn deal I’ve ever heard of. [laughs] 

Laurie: It’s crazy. I’ve had a lot of them like that happen. It’s interesting the question, because of course if you do a lot of podcasts, people love to ask you, “What’s the craziest deal you ever got involved in?” To be honest with you, Lindsay, I don’t have this one transaction. I have and what I would consider crazy and what other people would consider crazy are a little bit different, but I’ll give you my most favorite and the one that blew my business up the biggest. This is why you have to talk to everyone, never judge anything, always stay open, listen to what people have to say, ask questions, get into relationships. 

I had a gentleman who called me on the phone, this is going back 15 years ago, maybe a little bit about 15 years, and he called me on the phone, I still could tell you his name today, Zivi Nedivi. Lives in Israel. One of my Israeli clients. Amazing, brilliant man and he called me on the phone and he said, “Laurie, somebody told me that you did a great job for them when you sold their home. I would love to meet you.” 

He met me at a house that was probably like a hundred thousand dollars little, like a dumpy. It was nothing. Because a hundred thousand dollars in South Florida, you’re barely getting a car. I meet him at this house 15 years ago and he’s like, “This is a rental property. I would love for you to sell it for me. I don’t want to own it anymore. I don’t want to deal with it.” I built a relationship with him and I sold that property for him. Mind you, I didn’t know anything else about him. I just built the relationship. Sold that house for him. 

Then he asked me to come over to his home. Went to his house. I sat in his office. He had this big brown desk, which I’m going to tell you about in the story. He said, “Basically, I just wanted to see how you operate and if what I was told was real.” He said, “I have hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate and I want you to be my real estate agent. For so many years thereafter, Lindsay, I cannot count the sales that not only I did for this man, I bought and sold everything for him, but the referrals and the community he connected me with, it made my career. 

When he finally was moving back to Israel from the South Florida area, he asked me to come over again. I’m ready to sell my house, and we’re sitting across from each other. He said to me, he said, “You see my desk, this big beautiful desk I have,” he said, “I want you to have it.” I said, “Why do you want me to have it?” He said, “This desk made me a very wealthy man and built my career. I built my career on this desk and I cannot take it with me to Israel.” He said, “And I want you to have it.” I [crosstalk] that desk. It’s the biggest ugliest, heaviest desk you ever saw in your entire life. It’s like a brick. 

My husband is like, what are you doing? No one can lift this thing. We had to have it dismantled [laughs]. That desk has been everywhere with me and it’s still, right now it’s sitting in a storage unit. I can’t get rid of the desk because I’m afraid superstitious that the desk is working. 

Lindsay: No. That is the gift of success right there. If you get rid of it– 

Laurie: Yes. The gift was, is that, and I’m listening to myself share with you, it was just because I was just doing my job at a high level. I wasn’t focused on the money. Like, okay, like for me, if I was going to make $1,000 or $500, I must tell you that was a lot of money and it would pay a bill and I was grateful, okay? I don’t judge money. If I see $5, I’m going to pick it up, I’m going to put it in my wallet. I have high respect for money. 

What happened was in that relationship was like I just did the right thing. I didn’t look at, oh gosh, I got to sell $100,000 property. It’s going to be $3,000, then I got to give away 70% to the brokerage. You got to do all these things. You know what, I’m going to just keep building relationships and he changed my life. 

Lindsay: Why do you think that you have a knack for doing that with people? What is it that you think that they’re seeing in you that they are so gravitated to? Because that’s two really great examples of, yes, you go out and you do the job regardless of the price point or whatever it is. What else do you think that you bring to the table that makes them really love and trust and want to work with you forever? 

Laurie: In sales, and this is something we don’t talk about a lot– 

Lindsay: We’ll do the whisper again. 

Laurie: Yes. When you get into real estate sales, because I’ve never sold anything else, so I couldn’t really tell you how it is for cars or shoes or anything of that nature, but insurance, when you’re in real estate, if you do in the residential side of real estate, if you don’t from day one, decide you’re in the customer service business and that we are here to serve, let’s just use the word serve, you’re going to really miss the boat and leave millions on the table. 

My parents, my father is not alive, but my mother is alive, they were legitimate servant leaders. Of course, I had a good bird’s eye view of what that looked like. Not everybody is gifted with that bird’s eye view. What I would say to people who are in real estate is that it is not complicated. Zip it and listen. Ask the question, and then zip it. You ever see a real estate agent ask the question, then answer it for the person? It’s zip it and listen. 

What I really want to get across to agents is that the level of questions that you’re asking are likely going to come from the trainings you’re attending and the knowledge you’re acquiring. I really attribute success in my world to contribution to asking questions. I don’t care about the commission. I don’t live in the moment. I live in the career. People are so fixated on instant gratification. 

This morning when we were on our morning meeting, I was talking to agents about, if you are focused on instant gratification and you are not prepared to talk to someone six months or a year before they do anything with you, then you need to dismiss yourself from real estate because it’s not going to work. That includes what we call this now buyer or now seller. The person who’s like, “Hey, I’m ready to put my home on the market.” 

Okay, great. When you go to their home, it’s not to go listed. It’s to go build a relationship. Because what someone’s ideas of, “I’m going to put my home on the market right now could be a year.” The person who says I’m going to buy today, in their mind today could mean I’m really getting ready for the next six months. It’s really about what I attribute the success to is building relationships, asking great questions, providing value. Do not set someone up on a drip campaign, especially if you don’t know what they want. Get things to face, break bread with people, go have a coffee, invite them. 

I think a lot of people are exhausted from digital and from Zoom. They want it, they want that interaction face-to-face. It’s so funny, Lindsay, the questions that you ask are so powerful. A lot of the answers I realized are aligned and are the same, but they work. Why do we need some shiny, fancy thing that doesn’t work? I’m giving it to you as it really is. 

Lindsay: Yes, absolutely. You were talking about the fact that the building of that relationship and making sure that you’re putting the time in to get to know them. You’re right, it’s not just about the short term. Even if you had that person that’s like, I want to sell my house this week, and you do list it and you do have the sale within a week, you’re still building that relationship for the long term. Look at the relationship you have with the desk guy. [laughs] That’s how I’ll refer to him because I couldn’t say his name. 

Laurie: No, exactly. If we could just start to see wherever your lead is coming from, I don’t care what company, if it’s open house, if it’s your past client, if it’s your brother, your sister, if we could start treating all these humans equally and build relationships with them and build trust with them. 

Look, I feel that way. I don’t work with the consumer anymore. I work with agents and leaders. I’ll talk about my relationship with Anthony, it’s not going to just happen. I’m intentional with it. He’s intentional with it. We’ll have conversation. We’ll meet for coffee. “Hey, how can I help you, Anthony? How can I provide value?” “Hey, Laurie, how can I help you?” That is just relationships in general. People don’t want to do it because they see that as work. 

To me, isn’t it easier to sit in open house and get on the phone with people like, isn’t that easier than going and spending a bunch of money to buy leads that you have to do the same thing with? 

Lindsay: Yes, that are cold. Then you have to try to build that relationship. 

Laurie: Just because you purchase a lead where it comes from one of those companies, which we won’t mention, doesn’t mean they’re ready to transact. We have to treat them all the same. I actually think real estate for the people who do the activities is going to get easier in the next 12 to 15 months. I think it will get easier because most companies are training right along the lines of what I’m sharing with you, right? If I sit in open house, and I meet five or six people, and I put them in my database, and I do that twice a week, whoa, and I do the right next thing, provide value, meet with those people. 

Who cares if they’re buying a house? You know how many times I’ve sold houses and list property that weren’t from the source, they just sent me the referral. I believe that with all the training that’s out there, and all the good that is coming. Also, I think a lot of people who don’t want to do activities will move to the side, which means more business for us who are working our butts off. 

Lindsay: Yes, totally agree. [crosstalk] I think a lot of this translates to into people’s social media strategy. Obviously, I, being focused on marketing, I deal a lot with the agents on training them on like how to do social media. I think they’re always like you said, they’re looking for that shiny red, what post do I do that’s going to bring in the leads? I’m like, that is not if that’s what you think it’s going to be, like you’re so off, like it is a long game strategy, you have to build the trust, you have to build relationships. 

If you’re just posting something and then hoping that they call you and you’re not sliding into their DMs, as I always tell people and like building a relationship with them and wishing them a happy birthday and congratulating them when their child is born. If you’re not doing those things, then like you’re not you’re not doing social media right either. Can you talk to that a little bit as far as social media? Because I know you have a very strong team page and you have very strong personal page and how you train your agents to do their social media to replicate that. 

Laurie: Yes, I have quite a few of them right now that are all in and they’re doing such a great job. The reality is that just like we would provide value to the consumer or if you’re recruiting agents, whatever is, let’s just use consumer just the same way you would provide value to the consumer in person is something you have to do consistently nonstop. I look at my social media as an ATM, if you will, and a big giant ATM machine. Unless I fill it with value, I cannot make a withdrawal. Right? If the ATM is empty, right, someone’s got to put something in there, then we’re not getting anything out of it. 

For us, it’s more about like, look, how can I move the consumer forward? What value can I give them today? How can I help them make a decision? How can I help them decide maybe it’s the wrong time to sell or the right time to sell. What we do on our end, is we will rarely ever see an ad where I’m asking, hey, come hire me to be your realtor or come join my team. It’s more about, look, let me help you be the best version of you. Then they just show up. 

The amount of inbound applications that we receive and the amount of inbound consumers we have is massive now. I’ve been doing this now for three plus years, maybe four. People are afraid to start because it’s going to take too long. It’s going to take too long. I’m like, I got to quote Gary Keller, you can be anywhere in your life in five years anywhere. Yes. It’s about being consistent. I also want to just speak to this for a moment on social media. I am the most imperfect person on social media. 

Look, we’re doing this podcast, I don’t have any fancy lights going on. I’m in a room in my house with my closet doors pushed together. I don’t believe in the perfect video. One of the things I love about Anthony, he’s– I’m the same. I just turned the camera on, let’s go. Let’s go. 

Humans are not perfect. They will not relate to you if you are trying to be perfect and robotic. What they want to see is that, “Wow, if Laurie can do it, I can do it. If Lindsay can do it, I can do it.” Laurie makes mistakes. I’ll mumble my words. I say the wrong word. I fiddle with my glasses. I’ve got things going but no one relates to you when you are just this perfect choreographed. Just it’s so exceptional that they can’t relate. They won’t be attracted to you. You need to be the your authentic self. You need you need to make a mistake. You got to have a blooper. You can’t be perfect. 

More than anything, I do not care if you just want to talk about the weather in your area. You better show up constantly. Right? You have got to show up constantly. Consistent, consistent, consistent. What I see consistently is people who show up twice and leave, because they’re looking for something. They want something back so fast, and it doesn’t exist. 

Lindsay: Yes, it’s I had someone on the podcast that I recorded with his episodes coming out soon. His name is Shane. He’s out of New York City. He mentioned and I’ve never actually heard it put this way. I thought it was really interesting that he said that. He was like, “People that don’t want to get on video are actually very self absorbed.” The opposite, they think like, “No, I don’t want to be on video, because no one wants to see me.” 

It sounds like they’re being like modest. The reality is they’re actually very self absorbed. You could be helping someone, right? Doing this, and you refuse because you don’t like the way you sound or the way you look like that’s selfish. I was like, wow, I’ve never had it said like that. I think that’s so powerful. 

Laurie: It’s exactly what we preach. We say to our agents who were training or anybody who’s watching your podcast right now, and I say it all the time. This is not a dating website. No one cares what you look like. Just provide value. It’s the same thing when you get on stage. I know that you do lots of lots of speaking of it engagements. I’ve watched you, right? I remember the very first time I saw you, we were in Vegas, and I was blown away by you. John asked me to speak, I thought I was going to just hurl like, I could. Then I thought to myself, Wait a minute, wait a minute, Laurie, you’re looking at this very backwards. This has nothing to do with you. 

You have the ability to stand in front of these people, give them information, to the point where they can go home and make money and take care of their families. 

Lindsay: An opportunity, you were given an opportunity to help. 

Laurie: Honestly, once I realized it wasn’t about me, and my hair didn’t have to be perfect, and my outfit didn’t have to be perfect. I realized I was going to get to change lives. It changed it all. Lindsay, I promise you, I used to feel like I was going to throw up. I was so overwhelmed. I realized, oh, my gosh. Then they’ll be like, “Oh, I don’t like myself on video.” I’m like, get over yourself. This is not a dating website. 

Lindsay: Your face is what they see in person. 

Laurie: Right. That’s the other thing I tell them. 

Lindsay: If it’s not a problem on video, it shouldn’t be a problem in real life then. 

Laurie: Yes. Let me tell you what, as you get older, it really should be intimidating in the sense of, you don’t look the same as you did 10 years ago. Buy you know what, I’m so proud that I get to help other people. 

Lindsay: Yes. 

Laurie: Shane, who mentioned that to you, he’s so spot on. It’s selfish. 

Lindsay: It’s selfish. You’re not helping. 

Laurie: No. 

Lindsay: You’re being a secret agent. You’re 007 behind the behind the curtain, you should be helping people get to their dream of a homeownership. That was really powerful. I love that you’re pretty much echoing that same message. 

Laurie: I am. I think we say all the time that the gift is actually in the giving. My life changed a lot personally. I always say it is a very selfish feeling, like to get to inspire other people, to get to– Maybe somebody watches your podcast and they do, they start those morning meetings or they get away from being so nervous about social media and their life changes. What’s the good of it all? If you have it all, you don’t give any of it away. I said, we’re not competitors. We’re collaborators. 

Lindsay: No, absolutely. It has been a joy collaborating with you. I can’t believe we’re already at 35 minutes or so. This is insane. What is your last piece of advice for our audience there? You said before, there’s team leaders on here. There’s individual, there’s newer agents, there’s experienced agents that listen to this. Tell me what is that last piece of advice that you would overarching give to everyone out there right now? 

Laurie: It’s the same advice I’ve been giving to my own team and my leadership. Is that we can only focus on that which we can control. All of the outside forces are going to seek. They’re going to still keep happening. We’re going to still see all these lawsuits. We’re going to still see interest rates going on. Will we have to work potentially? I’m going to use the word 10, even though I’m hearing five. We have to work 10 times harder as we navigate this season, if you will, absolutely, but own it and be the example for the people around you. Step up, lean in, do things that are not comfortable, but that which you can control, right? Don’t worry about all these outside forces. 

A year into COVID, I gave up all news outlets. Couldn’t deal with it. It was so overwhelming. I was like, you know what, those people are not going to pay my bills. I’m trying to get, I’m trying to, I want to help a lot of people. They’re not helping me help anyone. 

Focus on the controllables. If you’re a team leader, hold your people accountable. Don’t be afraid for them not to like you or love you. Who cares if they like you or love you, right? When they have a bunch of money in the bank, they’re going to be obsessed with you. 

Lindsay: They’re going to love you. 

Laurie: Yes. If you’ve, if you’re an agent and you’re calling 30 or 40 dials a day and you’re not getting what you want, the heck with what other people say, make a hundred dials a day. Don’t listen to outside crap that doesn’t put money in your bank and help you build your business. Focus on the controllables. 

I just want to say to you, Lindsay, thank you for having me on Crush It. As I said in the beginning of our podcast or somewhere in the podcast, I’m a fan of yours. We learned from you. You remember when my girls were just up in Boston? 

Lindsay: Yes. I had so much fun with them. 

Laurie: Yes. I can’t wait to come back when you guys do it again. Next time I will be there. When I still remember the day when Anthony reached out to say that you guys were going to reload, not relocate, you were going to have an additional location in the South Florida area. I was just so excited because I thought to myself that he’s bad-ass, right? To have somebody else, a part of our area that really wants to grow something and is serious about their business, I love that. I love that I have neighbors in you guys and that we’re all learning and growing together and there’s lots of– 

Lindsay: It’s a credit to you too, that we were coming down there and what could have been an awkward thing turned into like a welcoming with open arms. We really appreciate you being like that with us. You came and did our Florida event last year, and spoke on stage and shared your wisdom with our audience. That’s the kind of collaboration and the type of environment that we all need to have. That goes back to the person you are. Really appreciate you doing that. You doing this today with me was awesome. Yes, your team’s amazing. I love hanging out. 

Laurie: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you guys. Awesome, thank you. 

Lindsay: Thank you all so much for listening and watching. If you’re watching on YouTube, we really appreciate you. I can’t wait to see you on the next episode of the Agents Who Crush It In Real Estate podcast. Thank you so much, Laurie. Have a great day, everybody. Thank you, Lindsay. 

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